This is what we started with. Looks scary, better total out the car right!?
Bah! I have a 4.5" angle grinder and I'm not afraid to use it! First we gotta clean up the area to ensure the rust stops at some point. I chose a line in front of cross member that attches to the bottom of the rail and between two spot welds top and bottom and cut the slot. I used my sawz-all to finish the cut on the bottom flange. Also, at this time, I noted the location of the captive nuts on the area above the frame rail so I could ensure that the horizontal alignment of the holes of the new part are identical to the old.
Bah! I have a 4.5" angle grinder and I'm not afraid to use it! First we gotta clean up the area to ensure the rust stops at some point. I chose a line in front of cross member that attches to the bottom of the rail and between two spot welds top and bottom and cut the slot. I used my sawz-all to finish the cut on the bottom flange. Also, at this time, I noted the location of the captive nuts on the area above the frame rail so I could ensure that the horizontal alignment of the holes of the new part are identical to the old.
I drilled out all of the spot welds and popped the old outer rail off with the air chisel. Now, the repro frame rail I bought to patch this has captive nuts welded to the rail itself so you have to imagine my surprise to see this bracket welded into the frame. I certainly was not expecting this. I thought the captive nuts were welded to the outer rail like the repro rail. I determined that this bracket was partially responsible for the deterioration of the rail since it left lots of places for water to get in between and no way to drain or evaporate.
4 spot welds were holding it in so I cut those welds and air-chiseled it out. I considered briefly to fab a new bracket but decided against it because I don't have any better way to seal the bracket to protect it from moisture (other than paint) than Ford did in 1968. Plus I'm not setup to fabricate sheet metal parts with tight bends out of metal as thick as 14 gauge. I ground the inside of the rail as much as I could reach with my tools and then treated it with Jasco Prep & Prime, and then sprayed primer on as much interior rail as I could get to and finally, treated the weld surfaces with weldable primer.
This is the repro frame rail patch with the old rusted parts. I cut out the new patch by measuring against the hole locations I took in the above step and the vertical cut from the car where the old rail was cut out.
Here is the preliminary fitting of the new patch. I've predrilled all of the plug weld holes and have adjusted the angle of the upper flange using the precision "smack it with a hammer till it fits" methodology. Also, the front edge of the patch had to be straightened flat to mate with the front frame rail.
I used clamps on the bottom flange and sheet metal screws on the upper flange to draw the outer rail patch to the inner rail and made tack welds all along the patch until it was tight (along with some strategically placed hammer blows). Finally, I finished the plug welds and welded the patch to the existing outer frame. My new birthday present really helped a lot on this step.
The welds were ground down flush...
Well, it's been over a year now so I don't even know if you'll be checking this. I read your 68 rail repair with excitement. My wife took ownership of her dad's 68 Mustang convertible and it needs A LOT of work to the frame and floor panels. The first frame defect I found was exactly what you described. The bolts spun right out of the side of the rail. I’m a bit nervous about cutting, welding, etc. , but you give me hope.
ReplyDeleteI am hoping to buy a old 68 mustang coupe from my dads friend and it has the same problem although I'm thinking it maybe worse though.
ReplyDeleteI have not gotten the car to see it but believe the entire frame rail will need replacing. My biggest fear is just trying to keep everything lined up as I tack it all up. I'm a welder so the welding an cutting part isn't a problem it is keeping it all straight that worries me. I think i can do it there is alot of threads online of guys doing this
You should be able to get enough measurements off of the original frame rail to realign the new one with little problem. Good luck!
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting this so long ago.I have the exact same issue on my drivers side as well but not as badly.Going to follow your method to do the repairs!
ReplyDeleteNo problem. Glad it helped!
ReplyDeleteJumping on the bandwagon and saying thanks! I posted over on VMF that my brackets were welded on by the idiots before me. This was really helpful.
ReplyDeleteSpent the last couple weeks reading your blog and really enjoyed following your work. I'm at the very beginning of mine and this gave me a great idea what to expect....will be on particular lookout for angry badgers under my dash lol.
Yeah, I saw that VMF post Jeremy. That really sucks but shouldn't be difficult to remedy. Haha.. those angry badgers will take a chunk out of ya!
ReplyDeleteThis is what I had in mind to do. Gave me some reasurance. Havent repaired frame rails before.
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